[occupyaustin-volunteers] Occupation Austin Info Mail, Lovin you!

Wed Nov 2 13:14:00 CST 2011

Howdy!

I would like to forward the following information to anyone who may have
been arrested over the Halloween week-end.

Brian McGiverin, with The Texas Civil Rights Project, is coordinating
defense attorneys for anyone who may have been arrested over the Halloween
week-end. If anyone needs help, please contact him. His phone number is
512-474-0726, and his email address is brian at texascivilrightsproject.org.

Cheers,

Azzurra

On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 11:34 AM, kenny arnold <a_ynnek84 at yahoo.com> wrote:

> As i am leaving town i would appreciate it if i did not receive anymore
> occupy austin emails. i wish nothing but the best for everyone here. love
> you all. be safe.
>
> Ted.
>
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> *From:* Gregory Foster <gfoster at entersection.org>
> *To:* occupyaustin-volunteers at foojutsu.org
> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 2, 2011 10:49 AM
>
> *Subject:* Re: [occupyaustin-volunteers] Occupation Austin Info Mail,
> Lovin you!
>
>
> <http://foojutsu.org/mailman/options/occupyaustin-volunteers/haridevamina--at--hotmail.com>Hung
> Luu's email address has been removed from this list after being given
> repeated warnings and opportunities to abide by the intent and purpose of
> the list.
>
> Please note that complaints about others abusing the list is just as
> abusive, adding to the quantity of emails everyone is having to sift
> through.  There is a moderator on the job (me) - just not every second of
> the day.  If there is a serious problem you are concerned about, please
> email me directly off-list at gfoster at entersection.org.
>
> Your patience and understanding is appreciated.
> gf
>
>
> On 11/2/11 8:46 AM, Hung Luu wrote:
>
>  I agree, transients who are helpful and those who are not are the'us'
> too. We should see to it that they needs are available, and each one should
> showed the best effort to better themselves first. I don't like the idea of
> welfare and allow the person receiving to sit idle all day long. This will
> produce serious stagnancy of the mind and body. Everyone needs to get up
> and be productive each day: whatever the situation you are in, you have a
> gift to the world. Share it! Peace,,Love. Harideva
>
>  ------------------------------
> Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2011 22:12:07 -0500
> From: bryson.gilreath at gmail.com
> To: occupyaustin-volunteers at foojutsu.org
> Subject: Re: [occupyaustin-volunteers] Occupation Austin Info Mail, Lovin
> you!
>
> I want as many people to be a part of this thing as there are people who
> feel the desire, or need, to be a part of it. If that means they just need
> somewhere to spend their nights that is safe, among people who will not
> take advantage of them the way "transient" people often are, or they just
> need something to eat, if we are given free food and are claiming a public
> space for the people, we have no right to turn away those who are not
> interested in politics but are victims of the very system we are fighting.
> If we can relieve some of the suffering people face, they will only be more
> likely to help us help the rest of the country/world because they will see
> that we are the kind of people who actually do care about everybody, rather
> than the all too common person who claims such but is really just trying to
> help those of their own station, people with whom I'm sure the "transient"
> folks are pretty familiar.
>
>  However, many visitor have spent their hours/days at OA drinking
> heavily, getting violently sick and disruptive as a result, and generally
> negating the safe and free atmosphere which for which, I believe, we
> strive. We are and should be all-inclusive, but there is nothing
> hypocritical about turning away people who insist on drinking or doing
> drugs at the occupation sight, or generally persist in being disruptive in
> all that they do. I believe we all have a similar group of individuals in
> mind as we discuss this, and they are now in, or were at least heading to
> New Orleans, so many of these problems may actually be resolved for the
> moment. But I think that if they continue to arise, that we take
> responsibility for the health and safety of the movement and ask people who
> are getting intoxicated or being disruptive to stop doing so or leave.
> Nobody is going to learn to be more sympathetic to their fellow man or
> learn ways to improve the world around them when they're busy emptying
> their stomach in the grass.
>
>  Sorry for the novel, just been very frustrated by this problem for a few
> weeks.
>
>  Bryson Gilreath
>
> On Tue, Nov 1, 2011 at 12:57 PM, Dan Nieto <drdannieto at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Best wishes!
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 1, 2011 at 12:04 PM, Carey Dunn <labgnome at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> The problem is that statement generalizes and marginalizes them as a
> group.  And a number of "transient" people have been active and supportive
> here in Austin.  I have had reliable reports of law-enforcement sending
> individuals they know are disturbed to the occupation.  While many of these
> people are transient, not all transient are disturbed or troublesome.  City
> Hall has also been using the nightly cleaning to cause sleep-deprivation in
> the people staying overnight.
>
>  Carey.
>
>  On Tue, Nov 1, 2011 at 10:11 AM, Hung Luu <haridevamina at hotmail.com>wrote:
>
>   My respects,
>  I have heard numerous times that transient are a problem at the occupy.
> The first problem is cleaniness. Each person should be able to keep
> him/herself and the environment he/she came in contact with at City Hall
> clean. If a person cannot do that, then how can he helps the movement. If
> he/she can't take care of him/herself, how can you expect that person to
> take care of this massive problem of the world?
> They are people who needs: a place to stay, have addiction, personal
> issues. They bring those problems to the occupy. They need help on those
> areas of their lives. The city should be responsible for those people. If
> the city was responsible for it's people, then ultimately, the people are
> responsible - but that seems to be fuzzy at this time. We need a place that
> only people who have taken care of most personal issues to come together
> and share ideas, comraderie,... and not bombarded by profanity, second hand
> smoking, cigarette-butts/ trash, party music. We need an environment
> conducive to higher and deeper thinking. I hope that would somehow happens
> by the desires and effort of true patriots. Thank-you, Harideva
>
>       --
> Gregory Foster || gfoster at entersection.org
> @gregoryfoster <> http://entersection.com/
>
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