[occupyaustin-it] Which Boyd Carter do we believe?

[Brian Overman]

First off, you never addressed the question at all. These two statements
you make are completely polar opposite one another. They are in direct
contradiction. And yet you don't bother addressing that....at all. So it
takes you a whole page to answer an email about two lines. And you don't
even address the issue in that whole page of useless text.

Step two...I have no access to anything on the website. Or any emails.
Anywhere. I have never logged into anything. Ever. So your delusion that I
am invading someone's privacy may continue in your mind, but I honestly
wouldn't even know HOW to login to an account. My "occupyaustin.org" emails
are outgoing through my personal SMTP with a "reply-to" alias and
apparently the replies forward back to my personal address.. This email I
pulled your quote from was distributed today to a variety of inboxes to try
to shed some transparency on what you have been doing. So keep your
accusations to yourself. Otherwise...that's called defamation. Also grounds
for a lawsuit. Which I have no interest in pursuing against you, because I
understand you are just looking for some reason to make me look bad.

Step three...I have never asked to get my hands on money. I think what you
work on should be open source and for the betterment of the occupation. The
statement makes no sense except maybe your own guilt getting the best of
you and projecting that onto me? I have actually been fighting very hard to
keep others from turning initiatives created in our open source volunteer
environment into profit for themselves at the expense of the Occupy
Movement. And I think it is laughable that your business partner has
insisted childishly on tying up the funds by making a check out to me
instead of the finance team as he has been begged to do. Juts to tie up our
money for longer because he knows I want NOTHING to do with money and WON'T
be cashing his check.

I think you'd be surprised to find that I am not against, in theory, the
"national" initiatives you are supporting. I am against, it seems, the
method by which they were implemented. Including you telling people in the
national movement that OccupyRadio Austin needed their help and that it
would eventually be turned into Occupy Radio FM and THEN telling us in the
Austin the two have never been related in any way whatsoever.

And finally...I would love to interview you. Peter has said he is protected
by his corporation and I should send the questions to his attorney (which I
will when he tells me who that is), Jonathan Cronin refused to answer any
of the questions put forward to him as well, but did provide a short
statement. You are last on the list. I have to finish interviewing all of
the other sources so I have the information I need to ask you informed
questions. What a a journalist!

In all honesty, this is taking up way too much energy and forcing me to
deal with all of this negativity and division your lack of transparency has
caused. I would rather just put this behind me. But because Peter has
decided to jump straight into a frivolous lawsuits, I am forced to continue
with my work so that I can protect myself from his baseless claims. So if I
am going to get sued I might as well have an article to show for all of the
work I have done in researching BEFORE I said anything in public about what
was going on.

The movement IS about Austin, it IS about me and it IS about YOU. It is
about the people. It is NOT about making money. Which is what drew you away
from the PEOPLE of Occupy Austin, right?. Isn't that what drove you to keep
secrets from them? Isn't it what drove you to protect yourself by saying
Occupy Radio Austin would soon BECOME Occupy Radio FM and then tell the
local movement that the TWO were never related projects? To protect your
personal profit?

Or was it something else that led you to these actions? Because if it was
something else, something for the betterment of the movement, then my best
hope is that you WOULDN'T quit. But instead that you would work hard. But
that you would do so from this point forward with a spirit of transparency
and accountability. That you would be a man of your word when speaking to
the local movement AND when speaking to the national movement.

Obviously this is not specific to IT. Or really has nothing to do with IT
except that at the time you were putting this information out there you
were doing it under their name. Perhaps you should contact me in a back
channel and just explain to me what this project is to you. What you have
been told it is meant to be. But at the end of the day...you're right. You
don't have to answer to me. Or to Austin. Or to the people of this
movement. You can choose to keep what you are doing,

Thanks for taking the time to engage me on this topic. I know it is
frustrating ALL of us. And hopefully soon we can move on in a different
direction with things that are positive for the movement. If you have
questions or concerns or just want to talk to find a way to get this past
us, please contact me direct at mail at brianoverman.com since this is
probably not an IT concern beyond what has already been discussed.

Brian


On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 2:19 AM, Boyd Carter <boydcarter at gmail.com> wrote:

> “in support of the Occupy Austin, Occupy Wall Street and other Occupy
> sites worldwide.” …  I was hoping for gratis services for all occupy
> projects regardless of scope, application or who gets credit.  It’s an
> expensive service from this company and I knew we couldn’t pay for it.****
>
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> This came from a web form I filled out trying to get free services for the
> movement worldwide.  I’ve never had the ability to send emails as
> it at occupyaustin.org it’s always been a distribution list to me.  It was
> listed here so all the IT magnets would be able to see what I was doing
> with the replies, after discussing reaching out to this software as a
> service company in the open IT meetings.  ****
>
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> “We typically take in-kind donations in lieu of cash donations.”  This is
> because people who sell stuff online with non-profit discounts still want
> to receive payment and still want to see the non-profit IRS number to
> document their tax write-off and I didn’t want a hold up if they were
> willing to see past this and help us by just giving us something for free.
> Occupyaustin still doesn’t have a IRS non-profit cert.  On the whole this
> is true movement wide because it can take a year to file for 501(c)whatever
> status and receive it.  ****
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> Why are you so preoccupied with enforcing your imaginary local bureaucracy
> and getting your hands on money, Brian?****
>
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> **EVERYTHING IT WORKS ON IS POTENTIALLY NATIONAL IN SCOPE**  All national
> IT inter-occ calls I’ve been on have gone something like this: “Here’s what
> we’re working on. Who else is doing something similar?, and How do we scale
> it up internationally to avoid reproducing work?”  Blame the technology,
> not us. Stop indicting all IT occupiers worldwide.  You look foolish.****
>
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>
> You will not limit my scope for your delusions of grandeur and petty
> provincialism, Brian.  I’ll work on whatever I want to work on for the
> movement, thank you very much.  The reference of my IT magnet status of the
> time was for authentication and non-repudiation with back channels via the
> occupyaustin.org website where I **was** .. WAIT A MINUTE.. **STILL**????
> ARE YOU EFFING KIDDING ME????..  listed as a magnet **and** where people
> are invited to donate via wepay. ****
>
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>
> Has anyone had a chat with you about logging into and publishing
> emails/accounts that aren’t in your name yet?  That legal account has
> client/attorney privileged emails, btw.  Good luck with that.  You aren’t
> building any trust in the nerd community here. Brian, Anton and Cesar are
> also logging into and publishing individually named emails i.e.
> jonathan at occupyaustin.org -- I advise anyone with a named occupyaustin.orgaccount to reconsider using it if you are worried about your privacy.
> Brian and Anton clearly don’t give a crap and are more than happy to punt
> your rights with their own warrantless searches.  Bad form, Brian.  Very
> bad form.****
>
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>
> This movement isn’t about me, it isn’t about Austin, and it isn’t about
> YOU, Brian.****
>
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> *WE WON’T QUIT.*
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> I can’t believe I’m still wasting time with this crap :/  ****
>
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> Please contact me if you have any questions. (something Brian still hasn’t
> done.  What a journalist)****
>
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>
> Thanks,****
>
> Boyd
>
> ****
>
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> *From:* Brian Overman [mailto:mail at brianoverman.com]
> *Sent:* Monday, November 28, 2011 11:42 PM
> *To:* occupyaustin-it at foojutsu.org; boydcarter at gmail.com;
> it at occupyaustin.org
> *Subject:* Which Boyd Carter do we believe?****
>
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> Boyd Carter on Nov. 27th, 2011:****
>
> "Occupy radio has always been an independent project, never part of occupy
> austin. "****
>
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> Boyd Carter on November 4th, 2011:****
>
> "Lastly we are also driving the development and expansion of
> occupyradioaustin.org (soon to be occupyradio.fm)"****
>
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>
> In this email soliciting services from a company in the name of Occupy
> Austin. Notice donations are also pushed to NOT be made through cash
> donations to the website, but through in-kind services:****
>
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>
> From: "Boyd Carter" <it at occupyaustin.org>
> Reply-To: "Boyd Carter" <it at occupyaustin.org>
> Date: 4 Nov 2011 05:00:54 -0400
> To: "prioritysupport at fogcreek.com" <prioritysupport at fogcreek.com>
> Subject: FOG: Non-Profit Pricing
>
> >NAME: Boyd Carter
> >COMPANY: occupyaustin.org
> >
> >Hi,
> >
> >We are interested in using FogBugz/Kiln to support ongoing IT efforts in
> support of the Occupy Austin, Occupy Wall Street and other Occupy sites
> worldwide.
> >
> >Working with freenetworkfoundation.org, we are the team that prototyped
> and are iterating the FreedomTower/Free Wifi systems in place in Austin,
> New York, LA, San Antonio and elsewhere.
> >
> >We also have efforts ongoing in web and handset application development
> and communication tools under the @occupyapps moniker.
> >
> >Lastly we are also driving the development and expansion of
> occupyradioaustin.org (soon to be occupyradio.fm)
> >
> >I have used FogBugz/Kiln with success in the past and have suggested it
> for our list of possible project mgmt/tracking solutions for use in the
> group.
> >
> >Cheap is good.  Free is better.  We typically take in-kind donations in
> lieu of cash donations.  I would expect that we would be pretty low
> volume carrying 5-10 fairly active users and 15-20 irregular contributors.
> >
> >We understand that not everyone is open to association with our movement
> and no explanation is necessary if this is the case.  However, we would
> appreciate any help we could get.
> >
> >Thanks for your time.  Please feel free to call at any time if you have
> any questions or would like to discuss details.
> >
> >Boyd Carter
> >Technology Magnet
> >it at occupyaustin.org
> >682.429.4233****
>
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