[occupyaustin-it] occupyaustin-it Digest, Vol 2, Issue 68

[Jon]

Who sent this? And what exactly are they responding to?

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On Nov 18, 2011, at 2:39 PM, Charles N Wyble <charles at knownelement.com> wrote:

> On 11/18/2011 02:15 PM, occupyaustin-it-request at foojutsu.org wrote:
>>   5. Re: occupyaustin-it Digest, Vol 2, Issue 66 (Joe Cooper)
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>> Maybe I'm missing something in this conversation...but, I'd like to point
>> out that a lot of people have access to the entirety of the website content
>> (myself included; I asked for access so I could upload GA minutes, and got
>> it the next day, including the ability to update all of the pages).
> 
> Interesting. That's not been the impression that has been given.
> 
>> It's my
>> understanding that several IT team members also have similar access. If
>> Anton is exerting control over content, I'm unaware of it.
> 
> From what I have heard, it was pretty difficult to gain access to modify
> content.
> 
>> I see a lot of suspicious folks acting like everyone is out to get everyone
>> else. Damned near every working group is talking about their suspicions of
>> damned near every other working group. I don't think this attitude is
>> productive.
> 
> Not at all. That's unfortunate. I've not seen that attitude in the IT
> group and all it encompasses/interacts with  (live stream, uav, national
> occupy media, national occupy support, FreedomTower, sustainable
> off-grid power).
> 
> The IT working group is pretty broad. It encompasses numerous functions
> and we work very well together. If any group has reached a critical mass
> / consensus, it's definitely IT.
> 
>> A domain name must be owned by someone or some legal entity.
> 
> Well actually no one owns a domain name. They just rent it for a period
> of time. If you want to be pedantic. :)
> 
> One registers a domain name. This may be a legal entity or an
> individual. Sure.
> 
>> I don't see
>> how any other specific person owning the domain is better than Anton owning
>> the domain name. 
> 
> The alternate domain name we have in place is "owned" (I like to use the
> word stewarded) by the IT working group.
> 
>> What you're doing in asking Anton to hand over the domain
>> to "IT team" is to hand it over to some single person on the IT team. 
> No. It's being handed over to the group. The group has already
> demonstrated an ability to handle succession of responsible personnel
> etc. It's a living, breathing, continuously moving entity.
> 
> 
>> He
>> looks at that the same way you guys are looking at one guy holding the
>> domain name: with suspicion and hesitation.
> 
> Again. It isn't one guy (person). It's the working group. Have you been
> to a working group meeting? I don't recognize your name. If you haven't
> been, I really encourage you to do so. You'll see the dynamic, the
> energy, the doer attitude etc. It really can't be described.
> 
>> His position is a reasonable
>> one, given the demands people are making on him to hand over the domain to
>> someone...he wants to insure that if it goes to "the group" it actually
>> goes to an entity that legally answers to the group. Any individual on the
>> IT team does not meet that qualification. You're saying, "I don't trust an
>> individual to have control over the domain name. I demand that you hand the
>> domain name over to another individual."
> 
> You've just said the same thing several times. Standard 3 time repeat
> psychology at work. :)
> 
>> If there's an issue with the website not being up to date or complete,
>> somebody with access needs to start updating it; if the people who already
>> have access aren't willing to do that, then someone else needs to step up
>> and volunteer and actually do the work. There are currently 31 users with
>> access to the website content, including several Administrator level users
>> (some on the IT team; which means IT team members can grant access to the
>> website content).
> 
> Interesting. That's news to me. Good to know. A problem was presented at
> last meeting, I stepped up and rapidly provisioned a solution to the
> problem. That's what we do in IT. We move fast and we get things done.
> 
> 
> Let's move this discussion to the web working group list. Honestly I
> don't care. I provisioned the resources and gave control to the group.
> You all do what you feel is right. Let's not clutter up peoples
> mailboxes anymore.
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